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'''Argument from authority''' or '''appeal to authority''' is a [[:category:logical fallacies|logical fallacy]], where it is argued that a statement is correct because the statement is made by a person or source that is commonly regarded as authoritative.<br />
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===Examples===<br />
*The church says the Earth is flat, therefor the Earth is flat.<br />
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===Discussion===<br />
'''Latin Translation:''' 'Argument to respect' AKA 'Appeal to Authority'.<br />
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'''Definition:''' An argument or claim is fallacious when the person presenting it is not a legitimate authority on the subject in question and presents their argument or claim on the basis of their authority. <br />
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'''General Information:''' The argument or claim on the subject is flawed because the claim of its legitimacy does not provide any evidence or justification for the claim. The argument or claim may be true, but the fact that an unqualified person has made the argument or claim does not provide justification for accepting the argument or claim to be true.<br />
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'''Fallacy Structure:'''<br />
1) Person A makes a claim to be an authority on subject Y.<br />
2) Person A makes claim X on subject Y.<br />
3) Therefore claim X is true.<br />
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'''Example:'''<br />
Person A: I am an expert on the subject of evolution. (False claim)<br />
Person A: Homo Sapiens evolved from chimpanzees. (False claim)<br />
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Person A: I am a historian. (False claim)<br />
Person A: It was Napoleon Bonaparte who said, "If I had to choose a religion, the sun as the universal giver of life would be my god." (True claim)<br />
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--[[User:Raymanbrint|Raymanbrint]] 11:14, 16 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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===See Also===<br />
*[[Logical Fallacies by Todangst#Appeal to False Authority|Appeal to False Authority]]<br />
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===External Links===<br />
*[http://atheism.about.com/od/logicalfallacies/a/authority.htm About.com: Fallacies of Relevance: Appeal to Authority]<br />
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_authority Wikipedia: Argument from authority]<br />
*[http://www.skepdic.com/authorty.html The Skeptic's Dictionary: appeal to authority]<br />
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[[category:logical fallacies]]</div>Eddiehttp://freethoughtpedia.com/wiki/Appeal_to_authorityAppeal to authority2009-10-29T13:49:18Z<p>Eddie: Redirected.</p>
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<div>#REDIRECT [[Argument from authority]]<br />
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[[category:Appeals]]</div>Eddiehttp://freethoughtpedia.com/wiki/Ariane_SherineAriane Sherine2009-10-28T14:16:21Z<p>Eddie: /* Links */</p>
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==Biography==<br />
Ariane Sherine, born July 3, 1980 in London, UK, is a TV comedy writer and journalist. She's the creator of the Atheist Bus Campaign, and the editor of the first atheist charity book, The Atheist's Guide to Christmas, published on October 1st 2009 in aid of Terrence Higgins Trust.<br />
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==Bibliography==<br />
*[http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0007322615?ie=UTF8&tag=wwwfriendlyat-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0007322615 The Atheist’s Guide to Christmas] (A fund raiser for [http://www.tht.org.uk/ The Terrence Higgins Trust])<br />
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==Links==<br />
*[http://www.arianesherine.com/ Official Web site]<br />
*[http://www.arianesherine.com/blog/4532332465 Ariane Sherine's blog]<br />
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[[Category:Books|Sherine]]</div>Eddiehttp://freethoughtpedia.com/wiki/David_Sloan_WilsonDavid Sloan Wilson2009-10-28T14:15:16Z<p>Eddie: /* External Links */</p>
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==Biography==<br />
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==Bibliography==<br />
*Wilson, D. S. (2007). ''Evolution for Everyone: How Darwin's Theory Can Change the Way We Think About Our Lives''. New York, NY: Delacorte Press. <br />
*Wilson, D. S. (2002). ''Darwin's Cathedral: Evolution, Religion and the Nature of Society''. Chicago: University of Chicago Press. <br />
*Sober, E., & Wilson, D. S. (1998). ''Unto Others: The Evolution and Psychology of Unselfish Behavior''. Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press. <br />
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*[http://evolution.binghamton.edu/dswilson/ Home page]<br />
*[http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-sloan-wilson/#blogger_bio Blog]<br />
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Sloan_Wilson Wikipedia]<br />
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[[Category:People|Wilson]]</div>Eddiehttp://freethoughtpedia.com/wiki/Elliott_SoberElliott Sober2009-10-28T14:14:53Z<p>Eddie: /* External Links */</p>
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==Biography==<br />
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==Bibliography==<br />
*''Evidence and Evolution'', Cambridge University Press, 2008.<br />
*(with [[David Sloan Wilson]]) ''Unto Others: The Evolution and Psychology of Unselfish Behavior'', Harvard University Press, 1998; Spanish edition, Siglo Veintiouno de España Editores, 2000.<br />
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==External Links==<br />
*[http://philosophy.wisc.edu/sober/ Home page]<br />
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliott_Sober Wikipedia]<br />
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[[category:People|Sober]]</div>Eddiehttp://freethoughtpedia.com/wiki/PZ_MyersPZ Myers2009-10-28T14:11:21Z<p>Eddie: /* See also */</p>
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<div>Paul Zachary "PZ" Myers (born March 9, 1957) is an American biology professor at the University of Minnesota, Morris. He is currently an associate professor of biology at UMM, works with zebrafish in the field of evolutionary developmental biology (evo-devo), and also cultivates an interest in cephalopods. He is a public critic of intelligent design (ID) and creationism and an activist in the American Creation-evolution controversy. A self-avowed "godless liberal" and outspoken atheist, he is a vocal skeptic of all forms of religion, superstition, spirituality and pseudoscience. He is quoted as having "nothing but contempt for ID".<br />
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Interview with PZ Myers:<br />
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== See also ==<br />
* [[Myers vs Simmons]] - A debate on creationism vs. Darwinism<br />
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* [http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/ PZ Myers' science blog: Pharyngula]<br />
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[[category:videos|Myers]]</div>Eddiehttp://freethoughtpedia.com/wiki/Category:BlogsCategory:Blogs2009-10-28T14:09:50Z<p>Eddie: Added comment.</p>
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<div>Blogs of interest to the freethinker community.</div>Eddiehttp://freethoughtpedia.com/wiki/Greg_BahnsenGreg Bahnsen2009-10-22T13:29:48Z<p>Eddie: Added links.</p>
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This is a placeholder for debunking/rebutting [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&rls=com.microsoft%3Aen-us%3AIE-SearchBox&num=100&q=Greg+Bahnsen&aq=f&oq=&aqi=g10 Greg Bahnsen]. I saw him described in a '''comment''' as [http://www.disillusionedwords.com/?p=210#comment-6963 the man who atheists fear the most] and yet I haven't seen him mentioned in atheist circles.<br />
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I found some references on [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&rls=com.microsoft%3Aen-us%3AIE-SearchBox&num=100&q=Bahnsen+site%3Aricharddawkins.net&aq=f&oq=&aqi= RichardDawkins.net] and [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&rls=com.microsoft%3Aen-us%3AIE-SearchBox&num=100&q=Bahnsen+site%3Ascienceblogs.com&aq=f&oq=&aqi= scienceblogs.com]<br />
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[[Category:Theists]]</div>Eddiehttp://freethoughtpedia.com/wiki/Talk:Argument_from_ignoranceTalk:Argument from ignorance2009-10-20T13:18:09Z<p>Eddie: Added comment.</p>
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<div>Eddie, note the templates I created for embedding videos: http://www.freethoughtpedia.com/wiki/Template:Ytv and http://www.freethoughtpedia.com/wiki/Template:Gv<br />
--[[User:Pile|Pile]] 20:12, 19 October 2009 (CDT)<br />
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:Awesome. That will make it easier. :) [[User:Eddie|Eddie]] 08:18, 20 October 2009 (CDT)</div>Eddiehttp://freethoughtpedia.com/wiki/Talk:Ad_HominemTalk:Ad Hominem2009-10-20T00:11:27Z<p>Eddie: /* response */</p>
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<div>==Intended Edits==<br />
Pile, you have a note on this page to discuss "major edits" before implementing them. I want to work through the [[Master list of logical fallacies]] page and move content from that single, large page into the individual pages for each fallacy. That index page is obsoleted by the [[:Category:Logical fallacies|logical fallacies category]].<br />
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I also would like to format the fallacy pages such that they have similar layouts. At a minimum sections called "Definition", "Examples" and "External References" and where possible sections called "Explanation", "Also Known As" and "See Also" for related fallacies.<br />
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Does this sound like a good game plan to you? [[User:Eddie|Eddie]] 11:12, 19 October 2009 (CDT)<br />
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I like your ideas. I think in the case of logical fallacies, we really need to make that section slick, perhaps with some kind of box on the right and divided into categories. This is an important section to me so you'll note I have at least 3-4 different master lists of fallacies - I'd like to keep them all because each source has a different perspective, but the individual pages-per-fallacy I am all for standardizing. Some, like [[Strawman]], I've put a lot of personal time into making as best it can be - that would serve as an example of how I'd like them all to be ideally, but I also like the idea of having some sort of right-justified box that has an index of some sorts, the way Wikipedia does for major topics.--[[User:Pile|Pile]] 11:22, 19 October 2009 (CDT)<br />
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Also, if you want to work on some other plans, register on the messageboard, let me know what your account is (via e-mail) and I'll give you access to a private area for mods to discuss things.--[[User:Pile|Pile]] 11:22, 19 October 2009 (CDT)<br />
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:I agree these pages are some of the most important on this site.<br>I will use the Strawman article as a template if I find articles that need reformatting. I will leave the index pages alone on the grounds of what you say.<br>When I get a chance I will register on the forum and let you know. At the moment I'm dealing with a fried power supply on one computer and a failing drive on another. :( [[User:Eddie|Eddie]] 19:11, 19 October 2009 (CDT)</div>Eddiehttp://freethoughtpedia.com/wiki/SpotlightSpotlight2009-10-19T13:48:56Z<p>Eddie: Added page.</p>
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<div>==Definition==<br />
This fallacy is committed when assuming that stereotypes are representative of a type.<br />
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==Examples==<br />
*Atheists are arrogant and condescending.<br />
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==Also Known As==<br />
*Biased sample<br />
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==See Also==<br />
*[[Hasty Generalization]]<br />
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==External References==<br />
*[http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/spotlight.html Nizkor: Spotlight Fallacy]<br />
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spotlight_fallacy Wikipedia: Spotlight Fallacy]<br />
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[[Category:Logical fallacies]]</div>Eddiehttp://freethoughtpedia.com/wiki/Relativist_FallacyRelativist Fallacy2009-10-19T13:32:47Z<p>Eddie: Added page.</p>
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<div>==Definition==<br />
This fallacy is committed when someone asserts that a truth is relative to someone or something and can therefor be rejected.<br />
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==Examples==<br />
*"what is true for you is not necessarily true for me"<br />
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==Also Known As==<br />
*Subjectivist Fallacy<br />
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==External References==<br />
*[http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/relativist-fallacy.html Nizkor: Relativist Fallacy]<br />
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relativist_fallacy Wikipedia: Relativist Fallacy]<br />
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[[Category:Logical fallacies]]</div>Eddiehttp://freethoughtpedia.com/wiki/Questionable_CauseQuestionable Cause2009-10-16T19:53:24Z<p>Eddie: Added page.</p>
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<div>==Definition==<br />
This fallacy is committed when someone claims that A causes B simply because A and B are always found togther.<br />
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==Examples==<br />
*Stale bread always has mold, therefor mold causes bread to go stale.<br />
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==External References==<br />
*[http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/questionable-cause.html Nizkor: Questionable Cause]<br />
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Questionable_cause Wikipedia: Questionable Cause]<br />
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[[Category:Logical fallacies]]</div>Eddiehttp://freethoughtpedia.com/wiki/Poisoning_the_WellPoisoning the Well2009-10-16T19:39:07Z<p>Eddie: Added page.</p>
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<div>==Definition==<br />
This fallacy is committed when someone presents information about someone with the explicit intention of tainting other people's view of that person before meeting him/her.<br />
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==Examples==<br />
*The professor you will see in the debate tonight in defence of gay marriage is a Nazi sympathiser.<br />
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==See Also==<br />
*[[Ad Hominem]]<br />
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==External References==<br />
*[http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/poisoning-the-well.html Nizkor: Poisoning the Well]<br />
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoning_the_well Wikipedia: Poisoning the Well]<br />
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[[Category:Logical fallacies]]</div>Eddiehttp://freethoughtpedia.com/wiki/Middle_GroundMiddle Ground2009-10-16T19:13:47Z<p>Eddie: Added page.</p>
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<div>==Definition==<br />
This fallacy is committed when someone argues that the middle ground ''must'' be correct ''because'' it is in the middle of two extremes.<br />
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==Examples==<br />
*From Nizkor: A month ago, a tree in Bill's yard was damaged in a storm. His neighbor, Joe, asked him to have the tree cut down so it would not fall on Joes new shed. Bill refused to do this. Two days ago another storm blew the tree onto Joe's new shed. Joe demanded that Joe pay the cost of repairs, which was $250. Bill said that he wasn't going to pay a cent. Obviously, the best solution is to reach a compromise between the two extremes, so Bill should pay Joe $125 dollars.<br />
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*[http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/middle-ground.html Nizkor: Middle Ground]<br />
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[[Category:Logical fallacies]]</div>Eddiehttp://freethoughtpedia.com/wiki/Ignoring_A_Common_CauseIgnoring A Common Cause2009-10-16T19:00:41Z<p>Eddie: Added page.</p>
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<div>==Definition==<br />
This fallacy is committed when someone argues that A caused B, when in fact C causes both A and B.<br />
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==Examples==<br />
*A doctor may conclude that a build up of bacteria is the cause of a patient's illness when in fact a virus has compromised the patient's immune system causing the patient's illness and the build up of bacteria.<br />
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*[http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/ignoring-a-common-cause.html Nizkor: Ignoring a Common Cause]<br />
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[[Category:Logical fallacies]]</div>Eddiehttp://freethoughtpedia.com/wiki/Genetic_FallacyGenetic Fallacy2009-10-16T18:34:23Z<p>Eddie: Added page.</p>
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<div>==Definition==<br />
The genetic fallacy is committed when an claim is either accepted or rejected because of its source, rather than its merit.<br />
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==Examples==<br />
*Eugenics was pioneered in Germany during the war. Therefore eugenics is a bad thing.<br />
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==Explanation==<br />
Saying that something should not be used now because it had bad connotations in the past is not a sound argument.<br />
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*[http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/genetic-fallacy.html Nizkor: Genetic fallacy]<br />
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_fallacy Wikipedia: Genetic fallacy]<br />
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[[Category:Logical fallacies]]</div>Eddiehttp://freethoughtpedia.com/wiki/Gambler%27s_FallacyGambler's Fallacy2009-10-16T14:06:39Z<p>Eddie: Added page.</p>
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<div>==Definition==<br />
The gambler's fallacy is the belief that if deviations from expected behaviour or occurences are observed in repeated independent trials of some random process or event, then these deviations are likely to be evened out by opposite deviations or events in the future.<br />
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*"The last four coin tosses were heads, therefor the next toss has a higher likelyhood of being tails."<br />
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The coin toss is the best example of this fallacy. A fair coin has a 50% chance of landing heads up as tails up when tossed. Each toss is unaffected by previous tosses. The chances remain 50/50 for every toss.<br />
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==External References==<br />
*[http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/gamblers-fallacy.html Nizkor: Gambler's fallacy]<br />
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler's_fallacy Wikipedia: Gambler's fallacy]<br />
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[[Category:Logical fallacies]]</div>Eddiehttp://freethoughtpedia.com/wiki/DivisionDivision2009-10-16T13:51:49Z<p>Eddie: Added page.</p>
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<div>==Definition==<br />
The fallacy of division is the attempt to argue that constituents of a whole have the same properties as the whole.<br />
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==Examples==<br />
*"Bill lives in a large building, so his apartment must be large."<br />
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==Explanation==<br />
The premise and the conclusion may both be true, but the premise does not prove the conclusion without further evidence.<br />
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==See Also==<br />
*The converse is the fallacy of [[Composition]]<br />
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*[http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/division.html Nizkor: Division]<br />
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[[Category:Logical fallacies]]</div>Eddiehttp://freethoughtpedia.com/wiki/BandwagonBandwagon2009-10-16T13:30:28Z<p>Eddie: Added page.</p>
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<div>==Definition==<br />
The bandwagon fallacy is an attempt to use peer pressure instead of logic to support a conclusion or claim.<br />
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==Examples==<br />
*"All of my class mates are doing drugs. If I don't do drugs they will reject me."<br />
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==See Also==<br />
*Contrast with [[Appeal to Popularity]]<br />
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*[http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/bandwagon.html Nizkor: Bandwagon]<br />
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[[Category:Logical fallacies]]</div>Eddiehttp://freethoughtpedia.com/wiki/Appeal_to_NoveltyAppeal to Novelty2009-10-16T13:20:19Z<p>Eddie: Added link.</p>
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<div>==Definition==<br />
An appeal to novelty is an attempt to make a claim appear true simply because it involves something new or current.<br />
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==Examples==<br />
*"Christianity is the one, true religion because it supercedes all the pagan gods."<br />
*"This product is new and improved. You can't live without it."<br />
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*The opposite appeal is the [[Appeal to Tradition]]<br />
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*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_novelty Wikipedia: Appeal to novelty]<br />
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[[category:logical fallacies]]</div>Eddiehttp://freethoughtpedia.com/wiki/Appeal_to_TraditionAppeal to Tradition2009-10-16T13:19:13Z<p>Eddie: Added page.</p>
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<div>==Definition==<br />
An appeal to tradition is an attempt to use tradition or common practice instead of logic to support a conclusion or claim.<br><br>The premise and the conclusion may both be true, but the premise does not necessarily support the conclusion.<br><br>This form of argument is particularly appealing to people who are opposed to change.<br />
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==Examples==<br />
*"Gays have never been allowed to marry. Gay marriage is wrong."<br />
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==See Also==<br />
*The opposite appeal is the [[Appeal to Novelty]]<br />
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*[http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/appeal-to-tradition.html Nizkor: Appeal to tradition]<br />
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_tradition Wikipedia: Appeal to tradition]<br />
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[[Category:Logical fallacies]]</div>Eddiehttp://freethoughtpedia.com/wiki/Appeal_to_EmotionAppeal to Emotion2009-10-15T20:24:43Z<p>Eddie: Added category.</p>
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<div>==Definition==<br />
An appeal to emotion is the attempt to use emotional arguments instead of logic to support a conclusion.<br />
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==Examples==<br />
*"Think of the children"<br />
*"Support our troops"<br />
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*[[Ad Hominem]]<br />
*[[Guilt by association]]<br />
*[[Slippery Slope]]<br />
*[[Two Wrongs Make A Right]]<br />
*[[Straw man]]<br />
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*[http://atheism.about.com/library/FAQs/skepticism/blfaq_fall_emotion.htm About.com: Appeals to emotion index]<br />
*[http://www.fallacyfiles.org/emotiona.html Fallacy Files: Emotional appeal]<br />
*[http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/appeal-to-emotion.html Nizkor: Appeal to emotion]<br />
*[http://www.ciadvertising.org/student_account/spring_02/adv382j/jen/index.htm Emotion Theory in Advertising]<br />
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[[Category:Logical fallacies]]</div>Eddiehttp://freethoughtpedia.com/wiki/Appeal_to_FlatteryAppeal to Flattery2009-10-15T18:40:34Z<p>Eddie: Added page.</p>
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<div>==Definition==<br />
An appeal to flattery is an attempt to use flattering gestures to curry favour for an unrelated goal.<br />
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==Examples==<br />
*Paying excessive compliments to someone before asking them to do something for you.<br />
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==External References==<br />
*[http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/appeal-to-flattery.html Nizkor: Fallacy: Appeal to Flattery]<br />
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_flattery Wikipedia: Appeal to flattery]<br />
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[[Category:Appeals]]</div>Eddiehttp://freethoughtpedia.com/wiki/Appeal_to_FearAppeal to Fear2009-10-15T18:29:20Z<p>Eddie: Added page.</p>
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<div>==Definition==<br />
An appeal to fear is the attempt to use fear instead of logic to support a conclusion. The conclusion is often unrelated to the fear tactic and the conclusion is usually presented as the only alternative.<br />
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==Examples==<br />
*"If you don't believe in god then you will burn in hell for all eternity."<br />
*"Terrorists caused X to happen. We have to go to war with country Y to prevent terrorism."<br />
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==See Also==<br />
*[[Appeal to Emotion]]<br />
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==External References==<br />
*[http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/appeal-to-fear.html Nizkor: Fallacy: Appeal to Fear]<br />
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_fear Wikipedia: Appeal to fear]<br />
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[[Category:Appeals]]</div>Eddiehttp://freethoughtpedia.com/wiki/Talk:Debate_TechniquesTalk:Debate Techniques2009-10-15T18:06:37Z<p>Eddie: /* thanks */</p>
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<div>==thanks==<br />
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Nice work on the link setup Eddie!--[[User:Pile|Pile]] 11:04, 15 October 2009 (CDT)<br />
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:You're welcome. Now I'm working on the pages that don't exist. :) [[User:Eddie|Eddie]] 13:06, 15 October 2009 (CDT)<br />
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== Standards clarification ==<br />
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Precision -- Vague assertions are true until exceptions disprove.<br />
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I need some clarification on this point. I'm not sure I agree, but I'm not sure I understand the statement.<br />
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== Fallacy Examples ==<br />
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Let's see if we can plug in examples of any creationist arguments under these fallacies, in fact, I wouldn't be surprised if we could cite examples for every single one of them. --[[User:Acrylicist|Acrylicist]] 02:44, 25 September 2007 (CDT)</div>Eddiehttp://freethoughtpedia.com/wiki/Category:AppealsCategory:Appeals2009-10-15T15:43:44Z<p>Eddie: Added description.</p>
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<div>Articles dealing with the various types of appeals commonly used in arguments.<br />
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[[Category:Arguments]]</div>Eddiehttp://freethoughtpedia.com/wiki/Category:ArgumentsCategory:Arguments2009-10-15T15:42:11Z<p>Eddie: Added description.</p>
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<div>Articles dealing with the various types of arguments.</div>Eddiehttp://freethoughtpedia.com/wiki/Debate_TechniquesDebate Techniques2009-10-15T14:06:08Z<p>Eddie: /* The Fallacies and Creationist Instances */ Formatting.</p>
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== Universal Intellectual Standards ==<br />
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Standards to be applied to rational thinking and arguments:<br />
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* Clarity -- Do you understand the argument? <br />
* Accuracy -- Is it true? Can it be proven?<br />
* Precision -- Vague assertions are true until exceptions disprove.<br />
* Depth -- Is the argument comprehensive?<br />
* Breadth -- Does the argument cover all possibilities?<br />
* [[Logic]] -- Are there any fallacies?<br />
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== Recognizing Fallacies and Defusing Them ==<br />
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Sales people often resort to strategies to create a sale that many of us recognize as being a form of manipulation. (See [http://www.copywritersboard.com/member-content/3696-ben-franklin-close.html The Ben Franklin Close] for one example.) When debating a creationist, you will come up against many different arguments that are in fact, fallacies, that create cognitive distress and distraction. You and the debate's participants are being assaulted with flawed thought. However, unlike a salesman, it is hard to know if a creationist or other religious debater actually realizes that they are using fallacies to debate or if they are blinded by their own belief.<br />
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=== The Fallacies and Creationist Instances ===<br />
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(List from [http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/ Nizkor Project]) See [[Logical Fallacies]] for explanations of each.<br />
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# [[Ad Hominem]]<br />
# [[Ad Hominem Tu Quoque]]<br />
# [[Appeal to authority|Appeal to Authority]]<br />
# [[Appeal to Belief]]<br />
# [[Appeal to Common Practice]]<br />
# [[Appeal to Consequences of a Belief]]<br />
# [[Appeal to Emotion]]<br />
# [[Appeal to Fear]]<br />
# [[Appeal to Flattery]]<br />
# [[Appeal to Novelty]]<br />
# [[Appeal to Pity]]<br />
# [[Appeal to Popularity]]<br />
# [[Appeal to Ridicule]]<br />
# [[Appeal to Spite]]<br />
# [[Appeal to Tradition]]<br />
# [[Bandwagon]]<br />
# [[Begging the Question]]<br />
# [[Biased Sample]]<br />
# [[Burden of Proof]]<br />
# [[Circumstantial Ad Hominem]]<br />
# [[Composition]]<br />
# [[Confusing Cause and Effect]]<br />
# [[Division]]<br />
# [[False Dilemma]]<br />
# [[Gambler's Fallacy]]<br />
# [[Genetic Fallacy]]<br />
# [[Guilt By Association]]<br />
# [[Hasty Generalization]]<br />
# [[Ignoring A Common Cause]]<br />
# [[Middle Ground]]<br />
# [[Misleading Vividness]]<br />
# [[Personal Attack]]<br />
# [[Poisoning the Well]]<br />
# [[Post Hoc]]<br />
# [[Questionable Cause]]<br />
# [[Red Herring]]<br />
# [[Relativist Fallacy]]<br />
# [[Slippery Slope]]<br />
# [[Special Pleading]]<br />
# [[Spotlight]]<br />
# [[Straw Man]]<br />
# [[Two Wrongs Make A Right]]<br />
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[[Category:debate resources]]<br />
[[Category:definitions]]<br />
[[Category:theological arguments]]</div>Eddiehttp://freethoughtpedia.com/wiki/Talk:Argument_from_DesignTalk:Argument from Design2009-10-15T13:28:42Z<p>Eddie: Added comment.</p>
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<div>==Small but important distinction==<br />
The phrase "theists argue other complex designs must also have a creator" implies actual design. A better phrase would be "theists argue complex, natural objects must also have a creator." I realise the former is a paraphrasing of the ''claim'', however, I'm sure you will agree that the latter is the better representation. [[User:Eddie|Eddie]] 08:28, 15 October 2009 (CDT)</div>Eddiehttp://freethoughtpedia.com/wiki/Religious_intoleranceReligious intolerance2009-10-12T17:17:33Z<p>Eddie: New page about religious intolerance.</p>
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<div>==Examples of Religious Intolerance==<br />
*[http://www.arabnews.com/?page=24&section=0&article=122050&d=30&m=4&y=2009 Scholars hotly debate treatment of apostates] Badea Abu Al-Naja, Arab News</div>Eddiehttp://freethoughtpedia.com/wiki/Talk:Recommended_booksTalk:Recommended books2009-10-12T17:12:29Z<p>Eddie: Added comment.</p>
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<div>Harris' "Letters to a Christian Nation" is pretty good as well. [[User:Db2|Db2]] 03:46, 1 July 2009 (CDT)<br />
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==Add category==<br />
This is a protected article. Please add it to the [[:Category:Books|Books]] category. Thanks. [[User:Eddie|Eddie]] 12:12, 12 October 2009 (CDT)</div>Eddiehttp://freethoughtpedia.com/wiki/Talk:Theological_CriticismsTalk:Theological Criticisms2009-10-12T17:07:05Z<p>Eddie: Added comment.</p>
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<div>It is important to argue against and disprove Christianity. However Islam, while of comparable inaccuracy is considerably more oppressive, vastly more dangerous, and significantly more virulent. Why is there so little said here to educate people about the realities of Islam?<br />
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:People generally post information in areas with which they are familiar. If there isn't much in this wiki about Islam, it's because the contributors don't know enough about it. Your contributions on this subject (should you wish to make any) would be greatly appreciated. [[User:Eddie|Eddie]] 12:07, 12 October 2009 (CDT)</div>Eddiehttp://freethoughtpedia.com/wiki/Bill_O%27ReillyBill O'Reilly2009-10-11T21:39:02Z<p>Eddie: Added link.</p>
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<div>Bill O'Reilly is a host of his own "news" show on the Fox News Channel. He is known for espousing conservative viewpoints and attacking those who disagree.<br />
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Here's Bill interviewing Richard Dawkins:<br />
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==See Also==<br />
*[http://friendlyatheist.com/2009/10/10/bill-oreilly-shouts-at-richard-dawkins-and-gets-a-response/ Bill O’Reilly Shouts at Richard Dawkins and Gets a Response]<br />
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[[category:people|O'Reilly]]<br />
[[category:theists|O'Reilly]]<br />
[[category:ignorance & Misinformation|O'Reilly]]<br />
[[category:videos|O'Reilly]]</div>Eddiehttp://freethoughtpedia.com/wiki/Ken_HamKen Ham2009-10-11T21:21:11Z<p>Eddie: Added page for Ken Ham to document rebuttals of his claims.</p>
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==Biography==<br />
Ken Ham is responsible for [[Answers in Genesis]] and the [[Creation Museum]] in Petersburg, Kentucky.<br />
==See Also==<br />
*[http://friendlyatheist.com/2009/10/09/ken-ham-mischaracterizes-camp-quest-as-place-of-indoctrination-cq-director-responds/ Ken Ham Mischaracterizes Camp Quest as Place of Indoctrination; CQ Director Responds]<br />
*[http://www.noanswersingenesis.org.au/ No Answers in Genesis!]<br />
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[[Category:People]]</div>Eddiehttp://freethoughtpedia.com/wiki/Talk:Burden_of_ProofTalk:Burden of Proof2009-10-10T14:58:58Z<p>Eddie: Added comment.</p>
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<div>==Duplicate Article==<br />
This page is a duplicate of [[The Burden of Proof]] and should probably be deleted. [[User:Eddie|Eddie]] 17:25, 9 October 2009 (CDT)<br />
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: Thing to do is set up a redirect. take one page and put #REDIRECT [[pagename]]<br />
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::I agree. If there is no objection from the community in the next couple of days I will impliment the redirect if no-one else has done so in the interim. ;) [[User:Eddie|Eddie]] 23:57, 9 October 2009 (CDT)<br />
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nah, go for it.. I'd redirect The Burden of Proof to Burden of Proof - you can just move the page if you have access and that does an automatic redirect. In fact, let me see if I can do it.--[[User:Pile|Pile]] 00:52, 10 October 2009 (CDT)<br />
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:Thanks for taking care of that. When you've read this note please go ahead and delete this section since it is no longer relevant. :) [[User:Eddie|Eddie]] 09:58, 10 October 2009 (CDT)<br />
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==Split this article?==<br />
I recomend this article be split up into multiple articles. For example, although the concept of "Proving A Negative" is related to burden of proof, it isn't specifically part of the definition of "Burden of Proof" and warrants its own article. If there are no objections by tomorrow sometime then I will go ahead and do it. [[User:Eddie|Eddie]] 09:58, 10 October 2009 (CDT)</div>Eddiehttp://freethoughtpedia.com/wiki/Talk:The_Burden_of_ProofTalk:The Burden of Proof2009-10-09T22:32:12Z<p>Eddie: This article should be split up.</p>
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<div>==Irrelevant Content==<br />
This article is titled "The Burden of Proof" and should focus on that. "Proving a Negative" and other concepts discussed in the article should appear on their own pages. [[User:Eddie|Eddie]] 17:32, 9 October 2009 (CDT)</div>Eddiehttp://freethoughtpedia.com/wiki/Talk:Freethought_Anti-SermonTalk:Freethought Anti-Sermon2009-10-09T14:14:21Z<p>Eddie: This article needs to be updated.</p>
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<div>==Where are they?==<br />
Are these "anti-sermons" the same as the [http://podcasts.bsalert.com/ bsalert.com podcasts]? [[User:Eddie|Eddie]] 09:14, 9 October 2009 (CDT)</div>Eddiehttp://freethoughtpedia.com/wiki/User:EddieUser:Eddie2009-10-09T13:37:15Z<p>Eddie: Added brief intro.</p>
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<div>Hopefully I will help freethoughtpedia become a go-to reference and resource for all free thinkers who fight the good fight against the "believers".</div>Eddie